Security Testlet

@NerroAzurro, there is a Router and a Switch, you have to supply answers to both of the devices. Are the answers the same for both?

@Fever102, don’t you have to do both for Router and Switch? D

Continue from above, don’t you have to supply answers for both Router and Switch? As I remember from first time, you have to select answers for both.

Yes you do have to answer for both Router and Switch. I had this on my exam yesterday and tbh it baffled me.. I got 67% on the security section. Passed overall though.

@Rick did you get any of the Sim questions?Please share

Guyz i want to know all topics which come out on ICND1

@xallax: Can you telnet into a router which is configured with a password, but with no login command?

@aurion
why spoil the fun?

let’s build a packettracer lab together:

add a router and a pc to the topology

connect the computer to the fa0/0 of the router using a crossover cable

go to the computer and set up the IP: 10.1.1.2 /8 (255.0.0.0 mask)

go to the router and…
1) go to interface configuration and enable interface 0/0 (no shutdown)
configure the interface with an ip (ip address 10.1.1.1 255.0.0.0)

2) go to the vty terminal configuration mode and configure the first 5 lines (line vty 0 4)
set the password to mytest (password mytest)
disable login (no login)

now go to the computer and enter command prompt mode.
issue the command “telnet 10.1.1.1″

you now know your answer

@aurion
so… is the computer able to telnet to the router?

@xallax: Yes it did..so i guess one of the threats is surely gonna b the no login command after all

@aurion
yes, it is. and after you’ve built it yourself you surely learned it too. practice makes perfect

@xallax: What is the condition by which ciscouser would be granted a priviledge level of 15 by default?

@aurion
http://www.ciscoarticles.com/CCSP-Cisco-Certified-Security-Professional/Privilege-Levels.html

you have to set it to that privilege level when you create the user

username Q privilege 15

4questions regarding the security of each device (as mentioned previously *Very similar*):

Select three options which are security issues with the current configuration of Switch.A. (Choose
three.)
A. privilege mode is protected with an unencrypted password
B. inappropriate wording in banner message
C. virtual terminal lines are protected only by a password requirement
D. both the username and password are weak
E. telnet connections can be used to remotely manage the switch
F. Cisco user will be granted privilege level 15 by default

Identify security threat on RouterA (select 3)
1) unencrypted password set
2) Unsecured message on banner
3) Remote access through telnet can only be made through SSH
4) user gets level 15 automatically by default

which two of the following are true regarding the configuration of RouterA
1) at least 5 simultaneous remote connect are possible
2) only telnet protocol connections to Router A are supported
3) remotely conection to RouterA using telnet will succeed
4) console line connection will nevertime out due to inactivity
5) since DHCP is not used on Fa0/1 ther is not a need to use the NAT protocol

Select the options which are security issues which need to be modified before RouterA is used
1) unencrypted weak password is configured to protect privilege mode
2) inapropriate wording in banner message
3) the virtual termial lines have weak password configured
4) virtual termial lines have a password, but it will not be used
5) configuration supports un-secure web sever access

I got this one today, its as kmt already described above.

I still don’t understand this question! If there are two devices, 1 switch & 1 router. and you have to choose three from the first category for the router and pick three for the switch,, so why is there four categories?

@bigd
you have multiple question groups, you have to pick X from each group.
i had this one back in march. got perfect score so i must’ve got this one right too
show run on each device will provide all the answers

this was there for icnd1 today. one question each about router and switch. one was about the security state and other was about the config status.

btw cleared with a score of 962.

thank you 9tut.

what would be the answers to quetions posted by kmt

@test
you will be able to answer these questions after you see the running-config of the switch and of the router

what is the answer and how do i get them?i am asking for an example had this question and it was a little hard to understand.can i get some help scored a 799 and think i would have passed if not for this.can i get a detail example?

@ test
Router# Show running-config
This will show all the config, look at the console, vty lines. Check for the presence of passwords or the lack of passwords, check for weak or strong passwords. Check to see passwords are encrypted or not. Your answer to these questions are in the running config, my friend

Current configuration : 1200 bytes
!
version 12.2
no service timestamps log datetime msec
no service timestamps debug datetime msec
service password-encryption
!
hostname Switch
!
enable secret 5 $1$mERr$hx5rVt7rPNoS4wqbXKX7m0
!
!
username anthony privilege 1 password 7 0822455D0A16
!
!
interface FastEthernet0/1
!
interface FastEthernet0/2
!
interface FastEthernet0/3
!
interface FastEthernet0/4
!
interface FastEthernet0/5
!
interface FastEthernet0/6
!
interface FastEthernet0/7
!
interface FastEthernet0/8
!
interface FastEthernet0/9
!
interface FastEthernet0/10
!
interface FastEthernet0/11
!
interface FastEthernet0/12
!
interface FastEthernet0/13
!
interface FastEthernet0/14
!
interface FastEthernet0/15
!
interface FastEthernet0/16
!
interface FastEthernet0/17
!
interface FastEthernet0/18
!
interface FastEthernet0/19
!
interface FastEthernet0/20
!
interface FastEthernet0/21
!
interface FastEthernet0/22
!
interface FastEthernet0/23
!
interface FastEthernet0/24
!
interface GigabitEthernet1/1
!
interface GigabitEthernet1/2
!
interface Vlan1
ip address 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.0
!
ip default-gateway 192.168.1.1
!
!
line con 0
password 7 0822455D0A16
login
!
line vty 0 4
login local
line vty 5 15
login local
!
!
end

Notice all passwords are encrypted – this is how a secure switch or router should look, no passwords should be visible to the naked eyes

So if on an exam, you can all passwords in plaintext, then the device is not secure, my friend

Notice that on a switch that there are 16 vty lines, and you must ensure that you lock down all 16. A router has five vty lines

what is the answers?

i failed 9 times already!! remember, no stressing… take your time. When in the exam, make sure what you see as correct should be what you click. I cannot beleive i had perfect score on this router-switch questioning and failed on the other portions, in another exam, i barely had enough for thesame router-switch portion.

practice with packet tracer, practice,practice,practice,practice,practice,practice.. TILL IT STICKS!!!

@english
Are you seriously saying that you have sat the icnd1 9 times and failed them all. You must have some serious money to spend

@english

You must be kidding.. 9times (?)

btw we need that somebody collects all the comments and make the final review of this scenario, cause if you read all the comments, from the beginning, you can absolutely not understand how to resolve it. So come on, please people, provie the final scenario that we need to study ! xallax where are you m8?

Hey Joe,
If you have read all the comments you should realize that you can absolutely understand how to resolve this issue. The scenario and the multiple choice will not be the same come exam time, but the solution will be. Using the show commands on each device which will lead you to the answers. Siting the ICND1 in a few weeks, the information on here is gold. Using cbt nuggets, Cisco Press 2007 and 9tut.

Has anyone sat the exam recently? was there any questions regarding IPv6?

Passed ICND1 today, very happy but I thought I had it all down pack. Didn’t score high as I thought would. Mac addresses==forwarding ports. Security simlet, ip address sim, WAN 802.11 with how many overlapping channels (14?), drop & drag. DHCP (DORA). Thanks 9tut

@joe
i already gave my feedback on this sim.
all you have to do is to see the running config on both the router and the switch and then go through the questions (4 or 5). these aren’t hard at all.

Since network security is such a broad topic, can someone comment on what areas of network security I should focus on for the ICND1? I know how to configure passwords on the con, vty, and aux ports, and how to encrypt all passwords. What else do I need to know?

____________________________________________________________
ROUTER CONFIGURATION
line vty 0 4
password 4t&34rkf
no login
Banner > If you encountered any problem, please consult the administrator
_____________________________________________________________

_____________________________________________________________
SWITCH CONFIGURATION
line console 0
line vty o 4
login
transport input telnet ssh
line vty 5 15
login
transport input telnet ssh
Banner > If you encountered any problem, please consult the administrator
______________________________________________________________

Select three options which are security issues with the current configuration of Switch(Choose
three):
1) privilege mode is protected with an unencrypted password
2) inappropriate wording in banner message
3) virtual terminal lines are protected only by a password requirement
4) both the username and password are weak
5) telnet connections can be used to remotely manage the switch
6) Cisco user will be granted privilege level 15 by default
Identify security threat on Router(select 3):
1) unencrypted password set
2) Unsecured message on banner
3) Remote access through telnet can only be made through SSH
4) user gets level 15 automatically by default
Which two of the following are true regarding the configuration of Router:
1) at least 5 simultaneous remote connect are possible
2) only telnet protocol connections to Router are supported
3) remotely connection to Router using telnet will succeed
4) console line connection will never time out due to inactivity
5) since DHCP is not used on Fa0/1 there is not a need to use the NAT protocol
Select the options which are security issues which need to be modified before Router is used:
1) unencrypted weak password is configured to protect privilege mode
2) inappropriate wording in banner message
3) the virtual terminal lines have weak password configured
4) virtual terminal lines have a password, but it will not be used
5) configuration supports un-secure web server access

this should be part of the real security sim! It’s clear that we miss other parts of both show run commands. It would be great if somebody decides to finish this sim, correctly….cause it is still a little bit hard to understand. Let’s try to finish this lab together please

@joe mendola
ok, i gave it a look and came up with this:
http://www.ciscovce.com/demo/security.zip

thank you for your interest and for nagging the community to find a solution to this problem

@9tut
please download the zip and have a look, maybe you can find something useful regarding this topic. thank you

btw im the italian guy that bought from ur site and let a feedback…on 23rd i have the icnd1, afterwards i hope to buy next stuff on ur fantastic site

“Login banners are mainly used to display a warning message for security purposes, which
we will discuss in a moment. The motd banner derives from the Unix banner bearing the
same name. The Cisco motd banner is of little use in production environments and is rarely
used. The EXEC banner, on the other hand, is useful for displaying administrator messages,
much like the Unix motd banner, since it is presented only to authenticated users.
Banners are an important and often overlooked part of a good security policy. Although a
banner alone will not repel the crafty hacker, it will provide a certain level of legal protection. In fact, a well designed warning message may indeed repel a would-be hacker,
since the mere threat of legal action can be a wonderful DETERRENT. If unauthorized users
suspect that your organization is serious about legal action, then they are less likely to
target your devices. So we highly recommend implementing login banners on all production
routers.

A good login banner should meet the following objectives:
It should notify people who attempt to access the router that unauthorized use is
prohibited and only authorized users with official business are permitted.
It should mention that users should have no expectation of privacy since all activities
may be monitored and/or recorded without further notification.
The banner should remind users that unauthorized access is unlawful and that recorded
logs may be used in legal action.
Most importantly, the banner shouldn’t surrender sensitive information about the router,
your organization, or any other piece of information that can aid a hacker.
Laws governing legal notification vary significantly between jurisdictions and situational
purposes. We recommend that you clear all proposed banners with your legal department
before implementation. In addition, we strongly suggest that you include a proper legal
notification, in the form of a login banner, on all of the routers that you manage. Doing so
can simplify the prosecution of hackers that unlawfully access your systems by explicitly
notifying unauthorized users that their actions are indeed unauthorized. Think of the banner
as the electronic equivalent of a sign saying, “trespassers will be prosecuted.” Without this
sign, somebody could theoretically claim that they didn’t know it was a private system. It
may not hold up in court, but why take the risk?

The following banner message shows a particularly well-written legal notice that meets all of
requirements mentioned earlier. The FBI’s Atlanta computer crime squad provided this
sample banner. Again, please check with your local authorities before creating a warning
banner to ensure that it meets you local legal requirements:

Router1#configure terminal
Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z.
Router1(config)#banner login #
Enter TEXT message. End with the character ‘#’.
+——————————————————————–+
| WARNING |
| ——- |
| This system is solely for the use of authorized users for official |
| purposes. You have no expectation of privacy in its use and to |
| ensure that the system is functioning properly, individuals using |
| this computer system are subject to having all of their activities |
| monitored and recorded by system personnel. Use of this system |
| evidences an express consent to such monitoring and agreement that |
| if such monitoring reveals evidence of possible abuse or criminal |
| activity, system personnel may provide the results of such |
| monitoring to appropriate officials. |
+——————————————————————–+”

THIS IS WHAT I FOUND ON THE BOOK:” CISCO IOS COOKBOON 2nd edition”

this is my analysis about xallax’s scenario :

Router0

first of all it asks me to enter a password when i type “enable”: this means it might be set either enable secret or enable password. Then if you type type “cisco” u will discover that
the running-config is hiding this info:

line vty 0 4
password 4t&34rkf
no login

this is the 1st security threat, cause the password is unencrypted ( even though it’s written 4t&34rkf….this word is not the encrypted one but what the administrator typed because at the very beginning of the configuration file, you can see this command: “no service password-encryption”. This is a first threat, as i wrote before: everybody can read and memorize that password.
The second one is, of course, the presence of the command “no login” under the teletype’s subconfig: this means that, from the switch for instance, i can telnet to the router and enter within, without the asking of any username and password!
if the router’s interface ip address is 192.168.33.1/24 and i prompt(from the switch or from any other host), ” telnet 192.168.33.1″, i will get this message:

Switch#telnet 192.168.33.1
Trying 192.168.33.1 …Open If you encountered any problem, please consult the administrator

Router>

well now i try to say something about the banner. This is the message that you can find inside the config file:

banner motd ^CIf you encountered any problem, please consult the administrator^C

it doesn’t mean a threat, even though, reading what i wrote before, concerning that book, the motd should be something like:” warning! you must be allowed in order to…”
So maybe we can say this is a kind of threat, cause it doesn’t work as a detterent at all.

the last threat is this:
“enable password cisco”
this command lets you to go inside the Privilege EXE mode. This is the legacy command and the password is not encrypted: we should use enable secret, in order to have it protected by MD5 algorythm

Now im gonna say something about the switch:

in this case u can find this inside the running-config:

line vty 0 4
login
line vty 5 15
login

if you assign this address 192.168.33.2, to the vlan 1′s interface of the switch, and then telnet to it from the router or any other host, you will get this message:

Router#telnet 192.168.33.2
Trying 192.168.33.2 …Open

[Connection to 192.168.33.2 closed by foreign host]

this is a security issue: from teletype 1 to teletype 16 ( or better from 0 to 15 ), it ‘s not possible to deploy any remote access, because the administrator forgot to set the password, even though there is the command login. We need to enter an unique password or 2 password, like this:

Switch#config t
Switch(config)#line vty 0 4
Switch(config-line)#password cisco1
Switch(config-line)#login
Switch(config-line)#line vty 5 15
Switch(config-line)#password cisco2
Switch(config-line)#login

OR

Switch#config t
Switch(config)#line vty 0 15
Switch(config-line)#password cisco
Switch(config-line)#login

on both case, we should launch the command “service password-encryption” in order to overcome the security threat.

The banner message is the same like the router:
banner motd ^CIf you encountered any problem, please consult the administrator^C

ey xallax i have checked the .doc file that u attached with the packet tracer file. Well i think you are wrong about this:

Select three options which are security issues with the current configuration of Switch. (Choose three)
1) privilege mode is protected with an unencrypted password
2) inappropriate wording in banner message
3) virtual terminal lines are protected only by a password requirement
4) both the username and password are weak
5) telnet connections can be used to remotely manage the switch
6) Cisco user will be granted privilege level 15 by default and not Router#

the number 6 is wrong !
this is NOT true !if u telnet to the router you enter in user EXEC mode. You can’t go towards the PEC(privilege exec mode )! If you wanna go immediately in the enable mode, you need to configure the router with privilege 15 that is not in the running-config file; indeed u will get this prompt: Router> and not Router#

@joe mendola
i forgot to say which one is true/wrong there, thanks for reminding me
please download the archive again and take another look at it.

how about adding in a user named Cisco?
if i recall right password-encription was enabled on one of the devices…

maybe i ad been not so clear. this is what u wrote in ur .doc file:

Identify security threat on Router. (Choose three)
1) unencrypted password set – true
2) Unsecured message on banner – false
3) Remote access can only be made through telnet – true
4) user gets level 15 automatically by default – gets directly to exec mode, true

the number 4 is NOT true! because there is not the privilege 15 under the teletype config!

line vty 0 4
password 4t&34rkf
no login
!
!
!

you can only enter into the User EXEC Mode; you can’t go within the PEC(Privilege EXEC Mode) just like that. So we should think about the banner as a deterrent device !

@joe mendola
now i see what you mean…
then which 3 are correct?
1-2-3? what’s wrong with that banner?

read what i copied and pasted from IOS Cookbook 2n edition ! it is 8 messages before this one!
it talks about deterrent

well on ur configuration, that banner does not sound a threat so you are right, but on the real sim, if i am not wrong, there is a message like this:” ***WELCOME TO ROUTER…***
In this case it does not work as a deterrent

ok joe, so which 3 options are wrong here?
please work with me on this and lets try to make it as functional as possible

hi xallax, this is what i found on internet about privilege 15:

“If we wanted to allow all telnetting users to be put into privileged exec mode immediately without being prompted for an enable password, the command privilege level 15 placed on the VTY lines will accomplish this.

R1(config)#line vty 0 4

R1(config-line)#privilege level 15

From R2, we’ll telnet into R1 again.

R2#telnet 172.12.123.1

Trying 172.12.123.1 … Open

User Access Verification

Password:

R1#

We were able to telnet in from R2 with the original password of “baseball”, and even better, we were placed into privileged exec mode immediately!

You may or may not want to do this in real-world networks, though. If you want to assign privilege levels on an individual user basis, configure usernames and passwords and use the privilege 15 command in the actual username/password command itself to give this privilege levels to some users but not all.

R1(config)#username heidi password klum

R1(config)#username tim privilege 15 password gunn Both users can telnet into the router, but the first user will be placed into user exec and challenged for the enable password to enter privileged exec mode. If there is no enable password, the user literally cannot get into privileged exec. The second user will be placed into privileged exec immediately after successfully authenticating. ”

my comment:

1) with this command: username ciscouser privilege 15 password 0 cisco
i can sat the only threat is that the password is no encrypted ( because of the presence of no srvice password-encryption at the very beginning of the config file ); but a remote host that desires to telnet to the router, should know:
ip number of the device (he can disver it through cdp )
username
password

in this case he of course can obtain the access to the router and jump into the enable mode, immediately

2) if you find this:
line vty 0 4
password 4t&34rkf
privilege 15
no login

well this is a big security threat, not only because the password is not encrypted at all ( if it were encrypted you would see service password encryption at the beginning, and number 7 before the encrypted string ) but also because a remote host can access to the router, only through one information: its ip address
In this case the remote host will enter into the router and jump in privilege exec mode

That’s why i was a little bit tempted to choose “unsecured message on banner “, because ok there is privilege 15 and login local….but the remote host must know the username and the password in advance ! ok u should never allow remote host to enter to the privilege mode, but if you are far away from the place where the router resides, you need to rend possible the remote access: in my opinion it is pretty safe, indeed you have chosen “transport input ssh”: nobody can sniff your credentials !
ok if somebody is behind your shoulders, in that case, he might read those credentials and ok, now i admit it would be a security threat

thanks xallax and 9tut for their efforts

Caution should be used when selecting the text that is used in the login BANNER. Words like ” WELCOME” may imply that access is not restricted and may allow hackers to defend their actions !

Passed yesterday. I got 100% for the security section and did NOT select the banner option for router and switch.

thank you deemo, now it is clear how it should be done!

Passed yesterday as well….i got this question wrong. The switch configuration is somthing like

login local
transport input telnet ssh

got this question in exam as well. please prepare it..

So. I passed. 950. Security 100%.
I had this labsim. MOTD and banners aren’t flows in security – proven. In my question there was security flow: … un-secure ussage of http server that was enabled on the router.

Hi 9tut,

Cleared ICND1 this morning with an 874/1000 with 20 minutes to spare. Thought I did better but i’m not complaining, chuffed to clear it 1st time. It was easier than I anticipated, put the hours in studying and you will be fine. This was my first question on the exam. You have pretty much nailed it. show running-config on both devices and answer the 4 questions. The questions above are very close to what was asked. look for clear-text passwords, passwords on the console and vty lines, weak username and password command (cisco) , login local, the number of telnet sessions allowed, is a password configured for Telnet, exec-timeout, will it allow telnet and ssh etc.

I would like to thank 9tut / xallax and the everyone else for all the time you have put into this site. This site helped me pass as most of my questions were on the site!!! From what I remember, some of the questions I got were as follows:

-Security Testlet above, all the information is displayed in the running config, just go through the options given in the 4 questions
-Drag and Drop – DHCP (DORA) / Drag and Drop # 2 (file management – copy flash tftp etc) / DNS,ARP,DHCP (know what they do) / WAN technologies (Frame Relay – Packet switched , ATM – cell switched etc)
-Implementation SIM using show cdp neighbors command / show IP interface brief
-Show configuration SIM (show run / startup command disabled)
-Transport Layer fundamentals – 3 way handshake, TCP/UDP, Flow control
-Protocol process through the layers of TCP/IP stack sending an email using HTTP (SMTP at app layer – TCP at Transport layer – IP at Network layer – ARP at Network access layer)
-Encapsulation (HDLC) – default on Cisco devices
-Troubleshooting connectivity issues – when to use a X-over cable and Straight-through, spot incorrect cable in a diagram / duplex mismatch etc.
-Service Password Encryption and what it does
-What switches do when they get a packet with a destination MAC not in CAM table – Flood
-Indicator lights on a switch – Flashing green, Green etc (what each means – Full/Half duplex, network activity etc)
-Port-security, Mac-address sticky command, know what it does
-know the packet delivery process for the sending across the LAN and WAN (what MAC is used where etc) / ARP
-RIP (what happens when you enter router rip command – defaults to version 1)
-implementing a Static Route to default-gateway 0.0.0.0
-Subnetting,Subnetting,Subnetting (I had about 7 or 8 questions relating to Subnetting, valid host ranges, broadcast / network address etc. Practice and you will be fine. subnettingquestions.org I found really helpful. )

Hope this helps. Remember, do not memorize each question on this site, know the concepts and why they happen and you will be fine. I used CBTnuggets, Cisco Press Book, Packet tracer (I didn’t create any funky topologies, I just used it for working on the IOS entering commands) and subnettingquestions.org.

Onto ICND2 in the new year. Good luck!!!

passed with 950. I got 100% on security

if you have an answer that asks you about unsecure access through http server, wel that’s a threat definetily
In the running-config you will find something like this ( before line console, line vty… )

ip http server
ip http secure-server

the first line represents a threat, even though you have http secure-server enabled, on the 2nd line !!

thanks both 9tut + xallax!

ROUTER A CONFIGURATION

!
no service password-encryption
ip http server
ip http secure-server
!
enable password cisco
!
username ciscouser privilege 15 password 0 cisco
!
banner motd ^CWelcome! If you encountered any problem, please consult the administrator^C
!
line vty 0 4
password 4t&34rkf
login local
transport input telnet ssh
!

Question 1

Identify security threats on RouterA (select 3)

A. unencrypted tvy password set
B. unsecured message on banner
C. remote access can only be made through telnet or SSH
D. user gets level 15 automatically by default
E. unsecure http server access

ANSWER: A,D,E

even though you see 4t&34rkf as password, if you dont see the command ” service password-encryption ” , It is not encrypted at all !
privilege 15 lets you to enter in enable mode, through telnet/ssh ! the remote access will display Router# instead of Router>
even though you see ip http secure-server, the prior command represents a secure threat !
(remember if you ip http server, and it asks you about unsecure http access, you have to choose that threat)

Guys be aware that the message on banner in this case is a threat!!!
I read that on CISCOPRESS and I’ve done the ICND1 Security testl let and got 100%.
And I ticked on unsecured message on banner twice…
When I saw people saying that the banner…

“it doesn’t mean a threat, even though, reading what i wrote before, concerning that book, the motd should be something like:” warning! you must be allowed in order to…”

I believe that they’re giving wrong answers to people, so I posted what is written on cisco press website (bellow) and the link for everybody to get more information about banners.

When someone connects to one of your routers, he sees some sort of message or prompt. For legal reasons, Cisco suggests that a banner message be displayed to warn potential attackers not to attempt a login. For example, you wouldn’t want to use a banner message that says, “Welcome! You are connected to Router 1.” An attacker could use such a message as part of his legal defense, stating that he was told that he was welcomed to your router.

I read that from the source below:

http://www.ciscopress.com/articles/article.asp?p=1221619&seqNum=2

I hope that helps

Rick

@Ricardo as i wrote before, in my opinion that is a threat, indeed you can find it written in several books, such as that one you wrote.
If you read good what i wrot,e you can see that i claimed the same your theory:
“…Login banners are mainly used to display a warning message for security purposes…If unauthorized users
suspect that your organization is serious about legal action, then they are less likely to
target your devices. So we highly recommend implementing login banners on all production
routers…Doing so
can simplify the prosecution of hackers that unlawfully access your systems by explicitly
notifying unauthorized users that their actions are indeed unauthorized…”

I was aware that was a threat but then i found out that another guy didnt choose it during the exam, and he got 100% on security
Therefore when i got the exam, i simply analyzed the case and i solved it by means exclusion; indeed i chose unsecure http server access. I got 100% on security.
I think they can change it, so it is important to keep in mind that banner message might be considered as a threat or not; it depends on your specific case.
In my case it was not ( even though i was the guy that supported the theory it is a threat!!! ); in your case it had been a threat !
I didn’t give a wrong answer; i really provided another way of interpreting it

@Ricardo
It ridiculous cause it is there, i wrote what you claimed !
Why didnt you copy&paste the phrase that is under that one you put in your comment?

it doesn’t mean a threat, even though, reading what i wrote before, concerning that book, the motd should be something like:” warning! you must be allowed in order to…”
SO MAYBE WE CAN SAY THIS IS A KIND OF THREAT, CAUSE IT DOESN’T WORK AS DETTERENT AT ALL.”

i was sure it was a threat! but then i read this comment:

http://sasmos.sk December 19th, 2011
So. I passed. 950. Security 100%.
I had this labsim. MOTD and banners aren’t flows in security – proven. In my question there was security flow: … un-secure ussage of http server that was enabled on the router.

this guy wrote the truth; indeed i chose the same answer and i got 100% as him and i left the banner out when i was so sure it was the right answer !
If you said, instead, in your exam the banner was the threat, well now i have to think the exercise can change, so it is very important to analyze it;
my exam was different from your exam !
Read well before accusing somebody!

read this ( i copied and pasted from above ):

The following banner message shows a particularly well-written legal notice that meets all of
requirements mentioned earlier. The FBI’s Atlanta computer crime squad provided this
sample banner. Again, please check with your local authorities before creating a warning
banner to ensure that it meets you local legal requirements:
Router1#configure terminal
Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z.
Router1(config)#banner login #
Enter TEXT message. End with the character ‘#’.
+——————————————————————–+
| WARNING |
| ——- |
| This system is solely for the use of authorized users for official |
| purposes. You have no expectation of privacy in its use and to |
| ensure that the system is functioning properly, individuals using |
| this computer system are subject to having all of their activities |
| monitored and recorded by system personnel. Use of this system |
| evidences an express consent to such monitoring and agreement that |
| if such monitoring reveals evidence of possible abuse or criminal |
| activity, system personnel may provide the results of such |
| monitoring to appropriate officials. |
+——————————————————————–+”
THIS IS WHAT I FOUND ON THE BOOK:” CISCO IOS COOKBOOK 2nd edition”

@Joe Mendola…

Thanks to reply me back mate..

When have you done your exam??? because cisco had a “TYPO MISTAKE” problem in most of the icnd1 exams on a new release thath they’ve done… I did open a case to know my results, because I failed by 14 points and discovered that they was giving a wrong scores %.
There’s the link of my problem.. you can see my scores (of two exams) in there if you wish…
They’re 2x 100% though..

https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/38176?tstart=0

Take care
rick

Check my results on Attachments, My first post.

Rick

@Ricardo

i did the exam on the 23rd of december

I wrote several comments where i supported the theory the banner’s message was a threat, but then i discovered that plenty users didnt choose it and obtained 100% on security.
During my exam i was really tempted to choose the banner’s message as a threat ( CISCO IOS COOKBOOK, 2n edition talks very clearly about how configuring the message, in order it might sound as a detterent ); the doubts was tied up with the banner and the unsecure http server message. I chose the second one and at the end i got 100% on security. What can i say m8? I am happy my theory was not wrong but you can find it, cause exams are different among people

@Joe Mendola…
Thanks for your advice…

What I’m saying here is that I had 100% in the same questions that you had guys… and I ticked on banner.

can you do me a favor m8… can you check your results (in %) n check against my ones??

and check though the WLAN topic is not duplicated…??

Cuz I believe that because of cisco’s typo mistake… was giving wrong score in % to everybody who did the exams in nov, dec, etc…

Who so we can have a proper decision on this testlet..

have a look on my results…

https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/38176?tstart=0

Click on the picture attached on the first topic..

Thanks in advance…

Rick

@Joe…
Did you get the same information given below Joe??

Login banners are mainly used to display a warning message for security purposes, which we will discuss in a moment. The motd banner derives from the Unix banner bearing the same name. The Cisco motd banner is of little use in production environments and is rarely used. The EXEC banner, on the other hand, is useful for displaying administrator messages, much like the Unix motd banner, since it is presented only to authenticated users.

Banners are an important and often overlooked part of a good security policy. Although a banner alone will not repel the crafty hacker, it will provide a certain level of legal protection. In fact, a well designed warning message may indeed repel a would-be hacker, since the mere threat of legal action can be a wonderful deterrent. If unauthorized users suspect that your organization is serious about legal action, then they are less likely to target your devices. So we highly recommend implementing login banners on all production routers.

A good login banner should meet the following objectives:

It should notify people who attempt to access the router that unauthorized use is prohibited and only authorized users with official business are permitted.

It should mention that users should have no expectation of privacy since all activities may be monitored and/or recorded without further notification.

The banner should remind users that unauthorized access is unlawful and that recorded logs may be used in legal action.

Most importantly, the banner shouldn’t surrender sensitive information about the router, your organization, or any other piece of information that can aid a hacker.

I got it from the Source..

http://fengnet.com/book/Cisco.IOS.Cookbook.2nd/I_0596527225_CHP_3_SECT_13.html

Rick

@Ricardo

i did a combo reasearch on thse 2 books:

CISCO IOS COOKBOOK 2n edition

Cisco IOS in a Nutshell 2nd edition

in both books they talk about chances the banner can become a threat, if you do not configure it properly

this is the report of my exam( as i told you, at the end i chose the unsecure http server message instead of banner’s one )

describe the operation of data networks 93%
implement a small switched network 100%
implement an ip addressing scheme and ip services to meet… 100%
implement a small routed network 80%
explain and select the appropriate administrative tasks required for a wlan 100%
identify seurity threats to a network and describe… 100%

@Joe Mendola

The security testlet that I have done was 2 switch questions and 2 router questions..

I think that still missing something in there…

Is good that if someone, Who did the exam recently, Help us though..
I had 2×100% on my tests… and I prove that to you m8…
and I’ll post the link once again just in case that if someone wants to see it..

https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/38176?tstart=0

ps.. click in the picture attached on the first post.

Thanks once again

@Joe

I’m re-taking the exam friday and probably I’ll get this question, so I’ll let you know guys..

Rick

I got 100% on security and answered banner BOTH times because the message WAS inappropriate. You can tell by checking all other options and excluding them.

This is why braindumps are dangerous. There are like 10 ppl here stating that “obviously its not an issue with the banner” when in fact Cisco wants you to not only know how to properly use EVERY security option, but be able to check each and every possible answer and be SURE about whether they are correct or not.

At this point in your tech career if you cannot tell whether a password is secure or whether or not friggin TELNET is configured on a cisco product, please find another field to work in as its kinda too late for ya.

well at this point, after ricardo and dorko, i can claim my theory was ok.

Guys we are here to help and get the best answers to all of us…

Joe or xallax can you guys talk to 9tut.net website people and delete some of the answers given and just leave what is the most important… cuz it is causing people get confused with the answers.

I do believe that Banner is a threat and as I went to a ccna course… I spoke with the person who was doing the course and he said was a threat.

I’m re-taking it and I’ll let you know If I got it correct or not…

Rick

Just passed with 850 points…and 100% on security.
Guys the banner is a threat in this case, I did tick them and got it right..

Was 2x router questions and 2x switch questions.
Router:
———-1 question with 3 answers——————-

A. privilege mode is protected with an unencrypted password
B. inappropriate wording in banner message
C. virtual terminal lines are protected only by a password requirement
D. both the username and password are weak
E. telnet connections can be used to remotely manage the switch
F. Cisco user will be granted privilege level 15 by default

—————–1 question with 2 answers——————–

A. at least 5 simultaneous remote connect are possible
B. only telnet protocol connections to Router A are supported
C. remotely connection to RouterA using telnet will succeed
D. console line connection will never time out due to inactivity
E. since DHCP is not used on Fa0/1 there is not a need to use the NAT protocol

Switch:

—————-1 question with 3 answers—————–
1) unencrypted weak password is configured to protect privilege mode
2) inapropriate wording in banner message
3) the virtual termial lines have weak password configured
4) virtual termial lines have a password, but it will not be used
5) configuration supports un-secure web sever access

———————1 question with 1 answer——————-

Can’t remerber… but was just 1 answer correct..

I hope that helps..

Rick

CISCO IOS 2nd edition page 110:

It is a good idea to explicitly disable the HTTP server to ensure that only encrypted HTTP sessions are
permitted once secure HTTP is enabled. To do so, use the no ip http server command to disable the
HTTP server:
Router2#configure terminal Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z.
Router2(config)#ip http secure-server
Router2(config)#no ip http server
Router2(config)#end
Router2#

if you have these 2 commands enabled, when you launch the show run command, the first one represents a threat !

ip http server
ip http secure-server

This is confusing. People say they did NOT choose the “banner is a threat” option and they got 100% on the sim. Others say they DID choose the option, and they still got a 100% =/. My exam is tomorrow, and my gut says this labsim is definitely going to be on the exam =). I don’t know which answer I’ll be choosing though. Meh, I’ll leave it till I’m actually at the question.

@alaa
I ticked on banner yesterday on my exam and got 100% on security… I wrote above what to espect from it… Can you do us a favor pls… Can you check the last question (question n4)
Another thing that you’ll find is a drag n drop about packetswitchin, cell swiching, etc
The answer for that is …

Frames= packet switching
Atm= cell switching
Poit to poit= leased lines
Isnd or pstn= circuit switching

I hope that helps
Rick

@Ricardo, I’m read your comment just now, after passing the exam. I already read about that Drag and Drop question elsewhere; but thank you (it came in the exam).

I’m sorry, but I don’t really memorize the exam questions, but I can tell you very useful information about the security testlet:
One of the questions was “Choose Two” correct answers. By elimination, the three potentially correct options were:
1. inappropriate banner wording
2. unencrypted password to protect privileged mode
3. router supports un-secured web server access

Now, number 2 was obviously correct because the router was “enable password” configured and “no service password-encryption”. Number 3 is also correct because the router had both “ip http server” and “ip http secure-server” enabled, so it DOES support un-secured web server access. I ended up choosing these two options, and left out the banner choice (i.e., I did NOT choose it).

Now, the WEIRD thing is this: next question was also a “Choose Two” answers. After elimination, I was left with only two potentially correct answers, one of them was the “inappropriate banner wording” option. So I chose it this time.

So I chose the banner option in one question, and left it out in another. I got 100% on “Identify security threats to a network and describe general methods to mitigate those threats” (This is the Security testlet, right?). I really can not explain how this happened =/. Although I can assure you that what I’m saying is EXACTLY what I did. The only explanation I can think of is that the banner option is correct if there are no other correct choices.

The other two questions are pretty straight forward. As I mentioned, I really can’t remember what the exact questions/choices were, however I answered them by a simple process of elimination (eliminating the obviously wrong ones) like aforementioned.

Oh I remembered, this is question 4 you were asking about, and this was the second question described in my previous comment (the one where I chose the banner choice). It was “Choose Three” (not Choose Two as I mentioned before):

A. privilege mode is protected with an unencrypted password
>> true, because “no service password-encryption” and “enable password”

B. inappropriate wording in banner message
>> this was CHOSEN after eliminating the rest of the options

C. virtual terminal lines are protected only by a password requirement
>> not true, because vty lines had “login local”, thus requiring a username as well

D. both the username and password are weak
>> true, username was ciscouser, and password was “password 0 cisco”

E. telnet connections can be used to remotely manage the switch
>> not true, vty was “transport input ssh” configured, so telnet can NOT be used

F. Cisco user will be granted privilege level 15 by default
>> not true, username configuration was “username ciscouser password 0 cisco”

So after elimination, 2 choices were correct and the third one has to be the inappropriate banner wording because all the others are false.

Note to anyone that read my previous two comments: PLEASE do NOT memorise the answers I typed, my comments are merely explaining and clarifying the questions and answers. For example, I mentioned a question was “Choose two” when it was actually “Choose three”. I was just explaining how I ended up choosing/not choosing the “inappropriate banner wording” option.

Had this on the exam, the output is a bit different, but still the same concept . I don’t remember exactly the answers that were selected as the answers provided here weren’t really clear either. I do remember choosing the banner as the answers for both switch and router A though and got 100% on the security.

Had this on exam.I also got 100% on the security.Gota DORA drag and drop,show cdp neighbors Sim and a couple of hard questions on VLANS.

Almost the same security testlet still present in ICND1 exam yesterday. Two questions in Switches and Another two in Router. By understanding the comments above, questions should be able to answer easily.

had this question today